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# platform-toolboxs
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Fawad Khaliq
02/21/2024, 10:48 PMLink to the release page: https://linkerd.io/releases/#stable
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Andrés Botero
02/21/2024, 11:31 PMIt would make me think to consider them from now on. I've mostly worked with lean teams, but usually between 50 and 100 people, so they would already fall under consideration for this new model. Shame.
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Luca Galante
02/22/2024, 7:29 AM
Open Source isn’t easy. Sad to say, but i’m not surprised that more open source projects are having to end up like this has the grows more and more difficult
Luca Galante
02/22/2024, 7:32 AM
There has been a mentality that “open source it, and they will come” - but that is often far from the truth. Large scale community engagement on open source projects is rarer than you think, and usually without continual investment by companies the development on the project shrinks to nothing
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Ivo
02/22/2024, 9:08 AMSome more background and discussion here (it might not be so bad after all, based on some of the comments): https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/s/xieh78GC7P
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Daniel Bryant
02/22/2024, 2:36 PM+1 to what Luca said, but I also think messaging changes like this are very challenging! The top comment in the Reddit thread that Ivo shared provides more clarification -- and probably provides a better explanation of the (minimal) impact for most folks
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Luca Galante
02/22/2024, 3:21 PM
Good point. I hadn’t read that Reddit comment yet. It does change it completely
Luca Galante
02/22/2024, 3:22 PM
I think this whole things speaks to how people get very up in arms very quickly, when they feel like Opensource is being threatened without neccessarily thinking all the way through about what the changes might actually mean, if they’re justified or if the project just literally had no alternative
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Kief Morris
02/22/2024, 5:33 PMThis seems like a model that's getting more interest as commercial open source companies look at their business models. Here's a post on the idea that open source projects don't necessarily need to provide builds. https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/
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Shrinand Javadekar
02/23/2024, 12:45 AMPartial screenshot from the reddit thread attached ... So, looks like nothing much is changing for OSS users. But the messaging around it could've been better for sure.
Neways, completely agree that OSS is hard. And IMHO, the best approach for companies built on OSS is to have a clear understanding of the differences between OSS and their commercial offering/s. Several companies that build OSS for getting traction and then later try to find other ways of monetizing it always find it hard. Would love to hear from some folks at Weaveworks (FluxCD, eksctl, etc.) what they think about this.
Also, FWIW, OSS projects that have a strong chance of success are the ones where there is ONE company behind it and that company is NOT trying to monetize that project. Several OSS projects from Netflix, Argo from Intuit, K8s originally from Google, etc. are good examples (disclaimer: I was at Intuit/Applatix when Argo was open-sourced and currently at Outerbounds working with the OSS Metaflow project).
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