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Sophie

09/21/2022, 11:53 AM
Check out the latest @TFIR interview with our CTO Nati Shalom discussing how the “Increasing Complexity Is Hindering Developers From Developing Apps” Developers are facing many challenges when developing apps and managing complex infrastructure. In this episode of TFiR Let’s Talk, @Swapnil Pawar Bhartiya sits down with Nati Shalom, Founder and CTO of Cloudify, to discuss the key challenges developers face today. Nati goes into detail about the complexity #DevOps and engineers are grappling with and the concept of Internal Developer Platform (IDP) to help obstruct the complexity of #Kubernetes. Nati shares details of their latest release, Cloudify 6.4 and what they are working towards in the future. https://www.tfir.io/increasing-complexity-is-hindering-developers-from-developing-apps-nati-shalom/
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