How can I convince a group of PMs and POs about Pl...
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Martin
09/22/2025, 10:15 AMHow can I convince a group of PMs and POs about Platform Engineering?
Or, do you have ideas/content on what a Platform Engineering (specifically IDP) pitch for a group of PMs could look like?
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Jelmer de Jong
09/22/2025, 1:04 PMIf you can help them solve their problems with an IDP then they will be interested. Scope it to their problems and show what they will gain from the IDP.
Don't think there is a one size fits all in this case š
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Mina
09/22/2025, 1:04 PMIs there already an IDP team stood up of engineers? Like is this about adding PM to an existing build team? Or getting investment for the team itself
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Martin
09/22/2025, 5:53 PMThere is a IDP Team already. The PMs are responsible for other products that are using the IDP capabilities.
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Krzysztof H.
10/23/2025, 11:44 AMI would say... convince management or even C-lvl.
Some numbers which may help: https://www.exerizon.com/insights/platform-engineering-rethink-your-devops-blog
Calculations:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtub[ā¦]QAxWlRPEDHauyNhEQtwJ6BAgHEAI&usg=AOvVaw1AxpV-rZX3tSXODaX5mH3M
Another source, similar numbers: https://www.engineeringprimer.com/p/the-economics-of-internal-developer
Krzysztof H.
10/23/2025, 11:52 AMIn large corporations... POs or PMs will may your enemy if you want to build Platform š especially if their KPIs are not aligned with what you want to offer.
mostly because Platform done right will reduce the need of DevOps Engineers in every project, or reduce the need of setting-up different tools doing the same "because our domain is so special and we want to be independent". And this means:
ā¢ less people reporting to PO/PM = less power in organization structures
ā¢ less tools under the hood = being less irreplacable.
I know it's controvertial what I say now, but it is a reality for many large organizations.
This is why I do not go to PO/PMs with the idea of the Platform - I go to the senior management. And once I have their blessing - and mid-management KPIs change (so they won't work against standardization, flow unlocking, product mentality etc) - I go to PO/PMs for cognitive load recognition, convincing them that Platform will contribute to their new objectives
Krzysztof H.
10/23/2025, 11:54 AMso TLDR -> want to convince PMs? Check their KPIs, and use it in your favor. Or convince senior management, that POs/PMs KPIs should align with new way of work / new operating model (because Platform is a new way in most of the cases)