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+1 for PMs within the platform teams. definitely needed. we can discuss this further if you need convincing arguments for it. 🙂

Yes, we do. Each team has a Product Manager and Tech Lead. For platform teams we prefer PMs with more technical skills, though

our platform engineering team does not have a PM, although I personally do see the value in having one. Consensus amongst platform engineers on our team is that PM would just get in the way because the work is too technical. @Jelmer Borst @Haroon Rasheed im curious if you've heard similar pushback?

Thanks for the responses! Yes, I am curious about the arguments in favor of having PMs. And what technical skills should be top five to have to have good grasp of the position?

The PM needs some form of technical knowledge, for sure. At the same time, a lot of PM work also applies to platform teams. Talking to customers (other devs), discovery, etc.

This article summarises the arguments in favour very nicely. https://engineering.hellofresh.com/advocating-for-a-product-mindset-within-platform-teams-and-how-we-do-it-at-hellotech-part-1-fc1fbf8ae015

awesome thanks!

Thanks everyone! Awesome inputs ;)