I have listened to this podcast yesterday, by Daniel Bryant who sat down with Joe Duffy, founder and CEO at Pulumi, and discussed several infrastructure-themed topics: the evolution of infrastructure as code (IaC), the way in which the open source Pulumi framework allows engineers to write IaC using general purpose programming languages such as JavaScript and Go, and the future of multi-cloud environments. It is quite an old one, from 2020, but still really interesting. https://www.infoq.com/podcasts/infrastructure-code-multi-cloud/?itm_source=podcasts_about_golang&itm_medium=link&itm_campaign=golang