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# product-management
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that helps define it a bit more. actually measuring is the hard part. i’m attempting to do it through 1-1 developer journey interviews right now, but it’s not perfect.
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I like this, thanks! I’d love to hear any learnings about what works in the dev journey interviews too
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it’s just qualitative feedback through ideation -> production flow. this level of granularity is hard to explain to devs, so it’s really just a question of how mentally intensive is each task
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