Ron Hough
12/19/2022, 3:43 PMIMHO: even with the right tech skills, is up to the middle management the success of implementing an IDP.And later @Scott Collins added:
the challenge comes in the form of leaders who have worked at large orgs with silo’d platform or devops teams who view that particular pattern as the solution to all their problems, when in fact it can result in “platform stuff” being everybody’s and nobody’s responsibility at the same timeI’ve been doing this sort of work for a long time, and the most difficult challenges for me have consistently been successful collaborations with management, mostly middle. I’ve been in small orgs where “throw it over the wall to devops — it’s their job to handle it” was the position. I’ve been in larger orgs with mostly siloed “platform” teams pursuing efforts that weren’t taking the real needs of all the dev teams into account and had turned almost into “tail wagging dog” situations. I’m not bad at winning over other devs… I’m a dev myself, and with a little effort, I can gain their trust by making their lives easier through solving technical challenges. But as an Individual Contributor (IC), bringing managers onboard with a collaborative platform effort has proven to be much harder for me. Their incentives are different, and adding value for them can be more subtle. I’d appreciate hearing some “war stories” from ICs who have successfully forged collaborations with management to launch platform efforts. And I’d love to hear from managers who were themselves won over to such efforts. What approaches worked? What didn’t?
William Bradshaw
12/20/2022, 6:12 AMRon Hough
12/20/2022, 3:17 PMOlga Sermon
12/22/2022, 6:01 AMAngel Barrera Sanchez
12/22/2022, 7:36 AMRon Hough
12/22/2022, 4:43 PMAngel Barrera Sanchez
12/22/2022, 4:50 PMI’ve seen “platforms” that weren’t so much platforms as an aggregation of platform technologies, each run by a team focused on its own thing and not coordinating effectively with other teams.Here I am 😞