Hi all blob waver I need some help to bring platform engineering into my org woohoo I'm now working on the business case to assemble a team. Wondering if you can help me, from your experience, with these questions raised by our executives 👔 1. What's the average company size to start considering a dedicated platform team 2. Does a platform team coexist alongside DevOps/Infra team, at least until the platform is at "optimized" maturity? 3. How common is it for platform teams to own the org's production environment? 4. How common is it for platform teams to own the cloud spend for the environments they oversee? 5. Are platform teams buyers for most integrated IDP capabilities, or just request DevOps/IT/Infra team to look at stuff? Thanks!!!

Hi @Li-Or Amir, 1. I'd use a heuristic of minimum five development teams hosted on the platform to justify the investment in the dedicated platform team. However, it's more nuanced, as you need really benefit from economy of scale. a. (average costs of do-it-yourself) x number of teams

costs of building and operating the platform - money equivalent of other value-added capabilities 2. Yes, it usually co-exist alongside infra team focusing on the cloud landing zone/networking/compliance layers. 3. I think they always own the production env in terms of underlying infra. With a dedicated SRE capability they can potentially look after applications. 4. Big question of cross-charging model. 5. I'd say platform engineering team is responsible for sticky-glue code mainly and operating this on top of existing managed services provided by Infra team/cloud provider. I'm happy to jump on the call if you need further advisory in your platform engineering journey.