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i've been in the industry long enough to remember when "CMDB" was "essential" (built/managed a few of those) and in larger cloud orgs where "we need to be able to know who owns X / what dependencies X has so let's service catalog" and more recently in a smaller/mid-sized shop where we inverted this principle a bit and let "service catalog" become a natural outcrop of "SLO dashboard" (all the things we cared about had SLO and execs wanted to see that rolled up on one dashboard so it sort of become "the service catalog of things we manage that are valuable") ... which is a long way to say i've seen various approaches and not dogmatic in any way, mostly a lot of pros/cons. watching to see where this goes, so thanks all for the conversation.