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Hopefully a lot of the SaaS tooling has a decent terraform provider 😄

A lot of that comes down to configuration management as well, and is treated as a feature of the platform, that we automatically get DD, Sumo, etc provisioned as well as configured, so metrics and logs “just work”.

Yeah exactly

this is exactly what I was hoping to hear.

Sourcegraph, Backstage (not really a SaaS but a framework we build on top of), OpsLevel, Retool, Buildkite are all SaaS products that my specific platform group maintains. Datadog is another SaaS product my company uses but is maintained by a different group in my org. It's also not entirely fair to exclude terraform since there are provisioners for more than just cloud infrastructure, but I digress.

Wasn't aware of Atlantis. Who would have thought you can build a product around "Terraform Pull Request Automation"

Yeah I have to say it's very nice, first company I've worked at that uses it. It really helps remove the barrier a lot of people uncomfortable with terraform have due to the command line being a bit scary the first time you try it.

Hey Lars, would be cool if you could share your blog post here! I think it’s a really interesting topic

I'm happy to do that, but not sure if this particular one is of interest to everyone here. The title is “what is cloud asset inventory?” The premise of the post is that platform engineers want to give developers liberal permissions and not get in their way, but also stay in control and have visibility into what resources get spun up. If you don't do that, you incur inventory debt - drift, cloud cost, vulnerabilities, orphaned resources, etc You have so much terraforming and CI/CD going on, plus handjamming resources via the console - it's hard to keep track. And so the inventory becomes the tool that gives platform engineers control, because you put actionable KPIs into place that measure the state of you fleet. I asked about the other tools to include a note on what all is included in “infrastructure “. Happy to share the draft with anyone who cares to read it. I'll have it ready by tomorrow. Just shoot me a DM. And I would love comments / suggestions before publication! A more broader post on “what is platform engineering?” is in my backlog, I think that one may be a better fit for everyone on this channel.