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I am also obsessed with “Terraforming everything”. I find that a lack of providers or a lack of quality providers definitely hinders adoption though. The other problem with Terraform is that it does not lend itself to being used by non-engineers.
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lack of quality providers is a killer for me too
I went down this route with Auth0 provider and it had very limited functionality so we ended up maintaining our own fork
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Any other providers you both miss the most / have tried to use but failed due to quality? I agree, biggest problem with TF is no option for non-engineers. Have either of you seen any solutions / alternatives here?
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My team uses MongoDB Atlas heavily but their API and TF provider are so bad that we just maintain those resources manually or with some custom scripts.
I haven’t found a solution that works as an option for non-engineers. I work on a product team that makes a general purpose low-code platform for automation (think Zapier for IT/sysadmins) and I have tried to use it to make these things accessible to non-engineers by gluing Terraform and other tools together.
It doesn’t work great though and I end up spending lots of cycles maintaining or generalizing/abstracting things.
I’d love something that let non-engineers build using TF in a low/no-code type of builder environment and then allowed an admin (me) to put policy/guardrails around what they could build.
I’ve spent a fair bit of time thinking about building something like that myself 😄
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Same! But alas, I think there are so many other things Terraform can power in the configuration world. Happy to chat more about what you're thinking.
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I’d love something that let non-engineers build using TF in a low/no-code type of builder environment and then allowed an admin (me) to put policy/guardrails around what they could build.
It would be great to have some kind of TF (or other IaaC) visual programming for non experts. It's something I want to try to build/prototype sometime, maybe starting with "simple" block programming à la Scratch. Not sure when, but I'm very interested by this subject.